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 Joshua (2007)
IMDB rating: 6.00
Plot: The arrival of a newborn girl causes the gradual disintegration of the Cairn family; particularly for 9-year-old Joshua (Kogan), an eccentric boy whose proper upbringing and refined tastes both take a sinister turn.
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Directors: Ratliff George
Actors: Rockwell Sam,Roberts Dallas,McKean Michael,Kogan Jacob,Draper Alex,Barnes Ezra,Collins Rufus,Bloom Tom,Horror,Thriller,
How did Moses know God face to face, if he said no man can see God's face and live & how did Jacob see God?
Exodus 33:20
And he said, Thou canst not see my face: (( FOR THERE SHALL NO MAN SEE ME, AND LIVE.))
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Genesis 32:30
And (( JACOB )) called the name of the place Peniel: (( FOR I HAVE SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, )) and my life is preserved.
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Exodus 33:11
(( AND THE LORD SPAKE UNTO MOSES FACE TO FACE, AS A MAN SPEAKETH UNTO HIS FRIEND )). And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
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Deuteronomy 34:10
And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto (( MOSES, WHOM THE LORD KNEW FACE TO FACE,))
Moses never saw Gods face, he watched Him walk away.
Jacob saw God in the form of an angel.
God is a Spirit and can take on many forms but it seems His radiance cannot be looked upon directly without some form of veiling. John saw God as well in vision but to look at Him in our earthly state face to face without a veil seems impossible. .
Brother Trucker | Feb 04, 2010
Maybe because he made it up.
Return of Wonder Weirdo | Feb 04, 2010
Because it’s fiction
The Magnificent Wonder Weirdo | Feb 04, 2010
When you meet someone about 10,000 miles taller than you, you kinda know.
Liberal AssKicker | Feb 04, 2010
Because he knew no one would know the truth anyway.
The Amazing Wonder Weirdo | Feb 04, 2010
He figured no one would be able to call him on it, so he made it all up.
Wonder Weirdo the Sexy man | Feb 04, 2010
We already knew that the Bible is contradictory.

Ryan | Feb 04, 2010
Because there is no god, and no one was able to call him out on his stories.
The irresistable Wonder Weirdo | Feb 04, 2010
To see the face of GOD is to know madness.
Personally, I am thinking it is possible that these sayings may be metaphoric. I would need to see the untranslated text to be sure.
His Divine Shadow | Feb 04, 2010
dude the answer to everything…
Jesus
nothing more simple to physical
however face to face does not mean that God’s face was seen right there
Donald M | Feb 04, 2010
There are many explanations on this but here;
1)It was a metaphor meaning that he was so close to him but he did not really he just saw the back of his head…
2)There was a story with a big Scholar, and these Rabbis were looking for a law in the Maimonides book and one of the Rabbis said "the Rambam (Maimonides) could have forgot something he was human" so the big scholar said "if he was human we are donkeys but that is not true so it is true that we are humans and he is Angle" so I mean if the Maimonides was an angle metaphorically then how much more so Moses was an angle…
Just some opinions..
Sefardic Libyan Jew | Feb 04, 2010
The Hebrew language has multiple definitions for the same word as well as idioms and metaphors — just as English does. People who claim with a straight face that such phenomena represent contradictions in the text are either ignorant of linguistics or just plain dishonest.
Here’s an example from a newspaper story I read today:
A married couple were said by the prosecutor to have partnered hand-in-hand in committing a particular embezzlement crime over a period of weeks. Yet, in describing the crime, it said that the wife worked at the business while the husband worked over a computer from their home and had never ever visited her place of business. So how could they have done anything "hand-in-hand" while committing the crime when they weren’t even in the same location? Obviously, "hand-in-hand" is an idiom that has little to do with literal hands and everything to do with "operating together as a single cooperative unit".
Check out most any Bible commentary at a local library or bookstore for very extensive discussions of each of the four passages and the specific Hebrew word choices and contexts for each. Each deals with various levels of interaction and familiarity/knowing between God and the individual. Of course, since no native speakers of the Classical Hebrew of that period exist today, there are differences of opinion about the exact nuances of each text. But even if you are only fluent in English and know no Hebrew , I would bet that you already are aware of the many definitions of the English word "face", especially in differing contexts. In Exod. 33:20, YHWH makes clear that no human can see ALL THAT IS GOD AND ALL OF GOD’S GLORY and live…..so when "the face of God" is referring to that totality, it is impossible for any man to experience that. But in Exodus 33:11, for example, the context even helps you out with the explanation that it is talking about the more casual and incomplete/routine "seeing" of "a man speaking unto his friend". And in Deut. 34:10 it further emphasizes the uniqueness of the CLOSE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP that Moses had with Yahweh.
Here’s an example I’ve used with my students. (I taught religious studies for many years at a state-supported, secular university in the Midwest of the U.S.) "John hasn’t shown his face around here since the big confrontation." I asked my students to tell me everything that they could infer from the sentence, especially from the way the word "face" is used. Obviously, the idiom "show his face" packs special meanings that one wouldn’t get from the word "face" in isolation or most other contexts.
By the way, speaking in general it is important to realize that when one is translating between languages, you should never assume that just because the same word "ABC appears in all four contexts of a target language doesn’t guarantee that the same word "XYZ" appeared in all four contexts of the original language document being translated. So when one sees the word "FACE" in an English Bible, you shouldn’t assume that it is always translating the same Hebrew (or Greek or Aramaic) word/words in the original Biblical text. Likewise, even if one Hebrew word appears in all of the contexts of the Old Testament texts, you shouldn’t assume that it is always translated as just one possible English word. As a linguist would describe it, the source language and the target languages will have differing semantic domains where the "mapping" can be one-to-one, one-to-many, and many-to-one.
So if you have followed my explanation, you now understand why Biblical scholars have to be proficient in the original languages of the Bible (Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic). Indeed, most graduate school programs in Biblical studies won’t even allow you to start the program without proving a minimum level of proficiency in Greek for New Testament studies — and most require mastery of the languages by the time one completes the program.
Didache | Feb 04, 2010
apparently he spoke to him (spoke) as (as) a man speaks to a friend face to face, but moses did not actually see The Lord God, because as he said no man can and live. moses did speak to God at the burning bush, and later when The Lord hid him in the cleft of the rock and allowed mo to see his "after-glory".
m s | Feb 04, 2010
well me and some friends were talkn in a bible study about that…. and we came to the conclusion that it doent literally mean "face to face"…. it means it in a spiritual sense.
hope that helps!
mandi | Feb 04, 2010
God did not reveal Himself in His full glory. No man can endure the Lord is His glory and live. God appeared to them in a form but not in His glory. Also, God appeared to men in other forms such as the Angel of the Lord.
John | Feb 04, 2010
Al the instances you mention and may others where so owe inspiring.
The angels of Jehovah is what they really saw.
Angels appeared also to Abraham,Lot,Manoah, the Prophets,Jesus,the Apostles.
They where used by GOD the Almighty to speak and reveal prophecy to His servants.
Yes ,no man can see GOD and live.
So since none of te people mentioned died.
They did not see Him.
Also the voice of GOD ,was heard coming from heaven only 3 times.
Evey other times GOd used angels as spokesman
Forunae | Feb 04, 2010